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P0556
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Surname Sinclair of Findlater and Deskford
First Name John
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Dating 1411?
Location Fordyce
Life dates 1370(80) - 1411 (Harlaw)
Title Sir of Findlater and Deskford
Close relatives father - Richard Sinclair of Deskford
mother - Joanna de Findlater
child - Margaret Sinclair of Deskford и John Sinclair of Deskford
Type of the object Effigy
Place of manufacturing
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Place of exposition OLD PARISH CHURCH OF ST TALORGAN, Fordyce, Banffshire, Scotland
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The Findlater and Boyne tomb in Old Fordyce Church contains one of the finest surviving effigies to be found in Scotland. The detailed effigy shows a reclining knight with a dog at his feet. The tomb contains the bodies of Sir James Ogilvy of Deskford and his son. The carving on the front of the tomb reads: "Here rest two honourable men, James Ogilvy of Deskford, and James Ogilvy, his son and heir presumptive. The former died 13 February 1509 and the latter 1 February 1505. Pray for their souls."
This tomb, which was built in the early 1500s, is situated in Old Fordyce Church, Fordyce, Banffshire

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The medieval chancel contained the elaborate canopied tombs of the Ogilvies of Findlater and Boyne. The tomb with the recumbent effigy in armour is to James Ogilvie of Boyne and his son, dated 1510

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he more easterly contains a real treasure, the Findlater and Boyne Tomb, dating from 1510. A highly decorated recess set into what at the time would have been the north wall of the chancel contains the recumbent effigy of a knight, one of the best carved and least eroded you are likely to find, plus a canine companion as a footrest. The Latin script on the front edge of the tomb translates as: "Here rest two honourable men, James Ogilvy of Deskford, and James Ogilvy, his son and heir presumptive. The former died 13 February 1509 and the latter 1 February 1505. Pray for their souls."

Налицо явное несоответствие изображенного костюма и заявленной датировки памятника
Можно увидеть, что в структуре памятника выделяются элементы различной "древности" - почти стертый дождями нижний фронтон, почти новая арка и слегка "стертая" фигура
известно, что многие члены знатных семей пытались "причаститься" древности своего рода, используя старые памятники своих (или чужих) предков. Это видно из таких памятников как
(Link) - совершенно изуродованный памятник
(Link) - также относится к членам семьи Ogilvy из Cullen соседнего с нашим Fordyce
примечательно, что в этом памятнике лежащая фигура близка или идентична нашей, а в верхней части памятника изображены коленопреклоненные фигуры мужчины и женщины (зачем изображать персонажа дважды - лежащим на надгробии и отдельно коленопреклоненным) костюм верхней фигуры полностью повторяет костюм лежащей фигуры, кроме шлема (у лежащей древний бацинет с вервеллями, у коленопреклоненной - лежащий рядом шлем более поздний, закрытый, соответствующий 16 веку)
Так как материал и состояние памятника кажутся однородными, возможно, что здесь имело место копирование более старого памятника (возможно и нашего), а не использование деталей старого памятника

Если рассматривать версию использования старого памятника в нашем случае, следует рассмотреть историю Fordyce начала 14 века, к которому можно отнести изображенный костюм

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were buried in the Kirkton Churchyard, Deskford, sometime after 1600
Findlater Castle was founded by Sir Walter Ogilvie. In 1455 King James II authorised Sir Walter Ogilvie to strengthen his castle at Findlater and build 'a place of strength'. Probably the headland had been fortified since the 12th century when the Sinclairs (of Deskford) were given the land by King David I. A Sinclair heiress married Sir Walter Ogilvie of Auchleven in 1437
следовательно, наиболее вероятной персоной может быть последний представитель the Sinclairs (of Deskford) или Sir Walter Ogilvie of Auchleven

Sir Walter Ogilvie of Auchleven
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Умер 1440 в Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland
Муж Margaret Sinclair of Deskford

Margaret Sinclair of Deskford
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Умер в Deskford, Banffshire, Scotland
Дочь Sir John Sinclair of Deskford

Sir John Sinclair of Deskford
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Умер 24 Июля 1411 в Battle of Harlaw, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Отец Margaret Sinclair of Deskford и John Sinclair of Deskford (Смерть: (Дата и место неизвестны))

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Margaret daughter and sole heiress of Sir John Sinclair of Findlater and Deskford
поэтому сын нашего предполагаемого персонажа John Sinclair of Deskford может быть исключен из отбора
таким образом, мы пришли к датировке, к которой близки все имеющиеся в базе аналогичные комплексы (P0554, 1411?; P0514, 1411; P0517, 1421)

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Deskford Castle or Tower was built in the late 14th Century by the Sinclairs of Findlater and Deskford, a branch of the St. Clairs of Roslyn near Edinburgh. The last of this line, Sir John Sinclair, resided in Findlater Castle on the cliff tops until tragedy struck. His only son fell from the arms of his nurse and was dashed to death on the rocks below. The nurse, we are told, in her grief, threw herself to the same fate. The family moved inland to Deskford Castle, but further tragedy awaited them. In 1411, Sir John Sinclair was killed at the battle of Harlaw, leaving no male heir. The estates of Deskford and Findlater were inherited by his eldest daughter, Margaret, who married Sir William Ogilvie in 1437, thus bringing to an end the Sinclair line and sowing the seed of the Seafield dynasty.

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the ancient settlement of Fordyce has grown naturally as the religious centre (or 'kirktoun') of a large parish.
The Kirkton of Fordyce ...
таким образом, владельцы Deskford хоронились в Fordyce, что, скорее всего, относится и к Sinclair of Deskford

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There is a record of an ancient chapel at Skeith, Deskford, dedicated to Our Lady of Pity, in which her wooden image was once preserved. For many centuries, however, the Parish Kirk dedicated to St. John the Evangelist was situated at Kirktown of Deskford within its churchyard. Now a roofless ruin in the care of Historic Scotland (signposted from the main Keith road), it is of considerable historic interest, and is well worth a visit, particularly on account of its Sacrament House (as mentioned above) - installed in 1551 by Alexander Ogilvy of Findlater and Deskford
так что, возможно, именно здесь был похоронен наш Sinclair of Deskford

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Surname Hay of Lochloy (de la Haye (Hay) of Lochorwart and Lochloy)
First Name William
Nickname  
Dating 1421
Location Elgin
Life dates 1375-1421
Title Knight, Lord of Lochloy, High Sheriff of Peebles (1387)
of Park and Lochloy
Close relatives father - John Hay (1351-1418)
mother - Margaret (Stewart) Hay
wife - Janet MacIntosh, daughter of Sir William Chief of Clan MacIntosh
son - John Hay (+1431)
Type of the object Tomb
Place of manufacturing
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Place of exposition Elgin Cathedral, Eglin, Moray, Scotland
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His name was William de la Hay. If you look very carefully you might be able to find his name on the tomb

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Thomas, fourth of Locherworth, to the heiress of Sir William de Coningsburgh, which brought to the family the lands of Tullybothwell in Clackmannan.
From this couple descend the great northern branch of Hay of Lochloy. The effigy of Sir William Hay of Lochloy (d. 1421) can still be seen in full armour in Elgin Cathedral

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William de la Hay.— Elgin Cathkdral.
Tliu now almost quite illegible inscription on this tomb (fig. 49) reads, " Hie jacet Wills de la Hay quondam dominus de Lochloy qui obiit viii die niensis decerabris anno Domini mccccx.ki." His family are stated to have held the house, park, and barony of Inshoch for upwards of four hundred years.
The effigy has upon the breast three shields— the paternal bearings of the family of Hay ; and although at present appearing as a detached monument, appears as if it had at one time been recessed.

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Sir William (Knight) "Laird of Lochorwart and Yester" "High Sheriff of Peebles (1387)" de la Haye (Hay) of Lochorwart and Lochloy (born 1375)

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Hay of Lochloy Argent, three escutcheons Gules within a bordure Gules

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